Chelsea Going Forward

[nine nine nine]

I think he would be fantastic over there [at Chelsea ],” Ian Holloway told talkSPORT.

“I don’t want Palace to lose him, but in reality, he is going to have to go.

“I would love to see him in that sort of team.”

Holloway insisted his view isn’t about riling the Palace faithful, but simply an assessment of Zaha himself – who is one of his favourite players.

“I don’t want to upset them [Palace fans], but I am only looking and I think he is improving all the time. I see that end product from him, and I just love him.

“He is one of my favourite players ever because I’ve never seen anyone do what he can do.”

Arsenal were quoted between £70m-100m for Zaha last summer, so Chelsea will likely have to fork out for the 27-year-old.

But it’s rumoured that Chelsea have cash to splash following their window of inactivity.

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[Pagan]

9, There’s bargains out there to be had, Leicester have proved that and are still doing so, what we need is a good scouting network and trust in it.

As for resale value, at 28 in my opinion £80m for four seasons plus £40 in wages is an awful lot of money to lose….Pagan

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[Amz]

Pagan, i don’t get this thinking of re-sale value? Some players you have to go all out for.

Are we a small club that buys players just to sell them on for more money? (apart from our loan system lol)

We buy players who will make our team better. Will Koulibaly make our team better, yes. Is he expensive, yes. Is he worth it? Yes.

How much of a statement would CFC make by buying Koulibaly for £80m, than Dunk who would cost probably £50m. On top of the gulf in quality between the 2…

Why are you comparing to Leicester when we should be looking to Liverpool and Man City?

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[Mikus LFC]

This thread is eerily similar to the Liverpool TT forum some years ago around the Brendan Rodgers era. Leaders needed, better quality and scouting needed in the transfer market, develop the youngsters, sort the defence out, etc.

And I do see some similarities with Lampard’s first season and the early part of Rodgers tenure at Liverpool. Both managers have certainly given their teams more of an identity. But tactically at times and at the back, they’ve had some issues.

Be interesting to see how Frank gets on with some financial clout behind him, something Rodgers didn’t quite have, although there were some other issues there.

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[Pagan]

Why Leicester, because they have bought in players over the last few seasons that have been unbelievable value for money. They currently have the tightest defence in the league and haven’t spent a fortune comparatively.

Koulibaly at £30m a season is a huge chunk of revenue, that’s the best part of the shirt money or primary sponsor. Bearing in mind we only turn over £450m, where does the money come from for the other 24 players plus the running costs of the club….Pagan

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[Mikus LFC]

A problem Pagan is that the bigger clubs don’t want to take the risk on cheaper players from abroad. They’d even rather let them go to a club like Leicester, and then pay 6 times the price later on when they’ve proved their worth (Kante being a prime example). Big clubs like certainty.

Much has been made of how much City have missed Vincent Kompany and what a bargain he was when he was bought. Yet he was bought just prior to the big takeover in 2008 at a time when City were told they had to sell to buy, so it begs the question – would City have ever bought Kompany if they’d had a lot more money at their disposal?

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[Amz]

Surely we should be aspiring to be challenging Liverpool on all fronts (Europe included) and not Leicester. Look at Leicester the year after they won the League, where did they finish? They lost Kante, and finished mid table…

The money comes from:

Hazard transfer and wages
Higuain wages
Morata transfer and wages
Luiz transfer and wages
CL income
PL income
Giroud will be off our books
Pedro will be off our books

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[Pagan]

Mikus, the only flaw in that argument would be the number of high price flops the Premiership has seen….Pagan

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[Amz]

Also with one defender coming in, one has to go. Christensen for £30m…

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[Pagan]

AMA, yes they lost Kante and a few others, but they’ve rebuilt economically and look where they are now. I’m not saying we shouldn’t spend money, but if all the above players you have listed had negligible resale value, which is what you get buying 28 year olds, then where does the money come from?….Pagan

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[Mikus LFC]

Pagan, no doubt – but then as daft as it sounds – at the time, a club probably feels better when they spend big on a player because they think he *must* be good. And it makes a statement and puts the club even more on the map, initially anyway.

A similar thing happened with Sakho at Liverpool, with the club actually saying I think at the time that it was a statement signing and you could almost see the board patting themselves on the back on how good they felt about it. But Klopp didn’t take long to move him on. Probably say the same thing about Torres going to Chelsea. Big clubs like making statements.

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[nine nine nine]

Best we wait and see who we actually bid for there might even be an Azpilucueta or a Cahill at £7m amongst them.?

Whoever we go for personally I trust in Frank to make the right decisions.

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[Amz]

We didn’t buy Christensen to help better our first team, we did with Morata, and yes 2 years later were able to sell him and not lose much money.

it’s different with a CB, especially a world class one. They can play until they are 33/34 at a high level. Koulibaly is a commanding CB and there are not many around, he is great in the air, powerful and won’t get mugged off like Christensen does, fast so can at least keep up with some fast strikers, can read the game well and can pass.

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[nine nine nine]

I think Chelsea are a lot closer to where Klopp was a couple of seasons ago when 4 signings turned Liverpool from top 4 contenders to CL winners and likely PL winners this season.

The right signings alongside the youngsters we’ve got already and the ones we’ve still got coming through could make things very interesting going forwards.

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[Pagan]

Amz, I don’t know how old you are, but the late 70s and 80s weren’t a particularly nice era for Chelsea, I always err on the side of caution when it comes to the clubs stability….Pagan

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[nine nine nine]

That’s true Pagan but financially the Club is run very well now and we won’t spend what we don’t have.

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[Amz]

Hey Pagan, I’m an early 80s baby.

In this day and age the best teams go out and buy the best players (not for every position and doesn’t guarantee you success).

The best examples I can give you is the season after we won the league with Jose 2nd stint and Conte. We didn’t go out and buy a player to improve our first team and freshen things up. Then we just collapsed. Teams around us will always improve so we have to as well.

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[nine nine nine]

Football London who are usually fairly accurate “predicted” team v Lille???

Kepa; James, Rudiger, Zouma, Azpilicueta; Kante, Jorginho, Kovacic; Willian, Abraham, Pulisic.

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[nine nine nine]

“Chelsea face a test of Roman Abramovich’s desire to remain as owner, with American financier Todd Boehly continuing to pursue a deal for a Premier League club.

Standard Sport revealed in July that Boehly, former president of asset manager Guggenheim Partners and 20 per cent shareholder in the LA Dodgers baseball team, had shown an interest in Tottenham and Chelsea.

It has now been reported in America that he had had an offer for the Blues rejected by Abramovich.

Chelsea did not respond to a request for comment on Tuesday morning when asked to confirm the existence of a bid which was reportedly made last month.” ???

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[Chelsea.man]

Kepa
Azpi
Zouma
Rudiger
Emerson
Kante
Jorginho
Kovacic
Willian
Pulisic
Abraham

That is the line up i’m getting. not sure how accurate it is. but i have say, we missed Jorginho against Everton.

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