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Forgot about sarr, but he hasn’t done well on loan and not sure he up to it to be fair.
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Lucky,
Sometimes you can’t judge a player for not doing well at a club he has been loaned to. Maybe if Sarr is given a chance and surrounded by those qualities in our squad, he will do well for me. and he is left-footed which is another bonus. he could support Alonso like Azpi supports Reece James when he is out of position. I think Saul is an upgrade to Kovacic because he brings goals from midfield. and that is what you need to win the league. and his experience of being in two title-winning teams will be invaluable. I still think he is more important than a little know Kunde.
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I watched MOTD yesterday and was left with the feeling of what a shame Alonso didn’t leave it to Mendy as what happend after that wouldn’t have occur.
Chelsea fans have had a problem with Anthony Taylor for a long while now and I can’t see him getting another Chelsea game for a while and certainly not at the Bridge.
I wouldn’t have a problem with Taylor awarding the penalty had Taylor reviewed the VAR footage properly but reviewing the VAR monitor for a couple of seconds on only a final freeze frame was wrong and surely not what Referees have been instructed to do.
The red card was inevitable after the penalty had been awarded because the rules demanded that Taylor should send James off Taylor properly reviewing the VAR footage may have made no difference to the final decision but Taylor should have reviewed the VAR footage properly.
Gabrielle Marcotti questioned the penalty decision but without getting into any further discussions as to whether it was or wasn’t a penalty Marcotti focused on the questions relating to Taylor’s review of the VAR.
“There are two parts to this. One is whether it was a handball. Consensus seems to be that it was, based on the fact that James’ arm moves to the ball and it’s away from his body, making the player’s silhouette bigger. Or, as the Laws of the Game state (in rather clunky language): “the hand/arm has made their body unnaturally bigger.”
James, was sent off for his handball on the line in Chelsea’s 1-1 draw at Liverpool, but was it the right call? Did the referee adjudicate the situation too quickly?
I’m not so sure because, on the flip-side, the shot comes in from a very close distance, it ricochets off his leg and the movement of his arm comes after the rebound. These are all things referees have to consider when deciding what makes for an “unnaturally bigger” body, yet the match official, Anthony Taylor, took just 13 seconds to make his decision and, according to Thomas Tuchel, didn’t rewatch the incident at normal speed. That’s the sort of thing that leaves me non-plussed. You’d expect, in these situations, the VAR to walk him through the replays.” Gabrielle Marcotti.
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CHO to stay at Chelsea this season as Club turn down season long loan to Dortmund.
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I fully agree with Marcoti it was not even a penalty. If you believe otherwise than you have no idea how the human body works in motion.
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He’s just another excellent player,” said the former Manchester United defender.
“Massive experience at the top of La Liga. Massive experience in the Champions League.
“International. Fits the Chelsea profile of players who are ready.
“The addition of Saul, along with (Romelu) Lukaku, makes them stronger and stronger and stronger. Garry Neville 1/09
Let’s hope he’s right we’re fighting on 5 fronts hopefully Saul helps us with that.
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This is warranted imo, as pissed off as the players were and as quickly as the ref reviewed the footage its all irrelevant, it does us no good reacting like this and we need to take this on board.
Our reaction after half time is what we want to see, don’t cry over spilled milk just compose ourselves and make the best of what we can.
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Fair comments lucky mate
In fairness all teams react. The minute I saw the replay I thought it was a pen and sending off. In my opinion it only took him a few seconds to review as it was as clear as day.
Chelsea players were pissed off abd reacted. It happens to all teams
Sending off ruined the game. It was a very good battle in the first half
Full credit to Chelsea. I didn’t expect us to break you in the 2nd half as you are so good defensively even with ten men
We needed a mistake or a bit of luck 2nd half but I’ve absolutely no problem with a point. We couldn’t create much at all againest such a well organized team and tuchel got his subs spot on
Maybe we should have brought thisgo on earlier but I think if the game was still on now, we wouldn’t have scored.
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YB, sorry missed your post re sarr, would love him to prove himself good enough and he left footed too which would be a massive plus, of course I won’t be writing him off mate
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Chelsea being charged by the FA with failing to control their players following the penalty awarded to Liverpool at Anfield on Saturday and the Reece James sending was inevitable but in the circumstances I think the players of the majority of Clubs would have reacted similarly.
Personally I had no time for Taylor even before this game I don’t want to comment on the rights and wrongs on the sending off but once the penalty was awarded Taylor had no alternative but to send James off given the rules but that didn’t give Taylor the right to completely ignore the evidence in the VAR replay which whether James was rightly penalised or not can’t be within how Referees have been instructed to review VAR footage.
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Yeah nine I was as fuming as the players mate and of course that’s how pretty much every team would have reacted but it’s not necessary and doesn’t achieve anything positive. It is a good job it happened just before half time because it gave the players chance to compose themselves and attitude was spot on second half.
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Whilst I agree with you Lucky that it serves no purpose for the players to react as they did on Saturday they are only human and in the circumstances I think the majority of players no matter who the Club is would have reacted the same way in such circumstances.
I’m not sure how the Club could have prevented it. We will undoubtedly be found guilty and receive a significant fine.
Going forwards on a positive note James will just miss the game v Villa.
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To be honest I think it was the best thing that could happen given it’s timing, it allowed the players to vent their anger and then calm down and galvanise during half time and come out focused for the second. Be interesting to see how much the one point we got is going to cost us……Pagan
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That’s good just the one game nine. Azpi can cover, maybe even CHO.
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Don’t get that nine to be honest mate. He went to the monitor. It took him about ten seconds to see what happened. Took me five seconds to see it was a definite pen and with that a sending off???
He moved his arm towards the ball maybe very slightly but he did and it’s as clear as day in the replay the ref got it spot on.
I’m trying to understand what he should have done differently?
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Sean, I wouldn’t say he moved his arm towards the ball, I would say his arm moved towards the ball, it’s a subtle difference but it still resulted in possibly stopping a goal. It’s just another anomaly of the current interpretation of the laws, where not every eventuality has been considered. I’m sure there will be a rethink and the double jeopardy rule will apply to situations like this……….Pagan
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I thought maybe change it so just pen and no red pagan but that’s not justice then because the aggrieved team lost a certain goal and instead now have to take a penalty to get what they deserved anyway.
Maybe if hand stops ball on line we just give the goal with no pen required and no cards given?
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Ye whichever you want to put it pagan but it was a definite pen. I don’t get the complaints of why the review was so quick and What Taylor/var could have done differently
I’m not sure why the pen is even debated to be honest. No idea how anyone can see it differently then the decision given.
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Sean, Taylor reviewed only a still image for a few seconds he should have reviewed the whole incident with moving pictures I’m not saying that ultimately it would have made a difference but what Taylor did was completely wrong.
Have you ever seen a VAR decision where the Referee is recommended to go to the monitor reviewed by the Referee at the monitor decided just on a still frame reviews by the Referee in less than 10 seconds because I haven’t.
If you can’t see that, that’s fine it’s all done and dusted now anyway but you have to understand that many Chelsea fans believe Taylor has an agenda against Chelsea and how he handled the review just added to that.
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P.s pagan
That would only work if the only thing that prevents the ball going in goal is a hand though I suppose. General shots on goal blocked with hand in box would have to be different as only a chance of a goal is denied there so a penalty, an award of a clear chance on goal, would be justice in that scenario.
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