Are we falling short?

[sean the sailor]

Valid points nine but it shows how close we are then. As you say, if we learn to defend then we be up there so we really aren’t that far away. The way some are going you would swear the season was over. First step was to get into cl group stages and we did

We have lost one game this season.lets see we’re we are st Christmas. I just think people are going well overboard.

This is klopps 2nd full season. He picked up a shambles. Got us to two finals. There has been serous progression. People forgot the Hodgson era and how crap we have been previously

Look at when Chelsea lost one game. There was bullshit talk from some pundits of a crisis. It’s just too flippant and missing without real cause when things could be much much worse.

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[sean the sailor]

I fully understand the issues with our defence. It shoukd be much better after two years and the decision to keep playing Moreno is baffling.

We needed two centre backs never mind one. I was all for ox coming as we did need another wide player. Mane is our now so he shoukd come in as firmino has to stay through the middle as he is not effective out wide
Still we need a centre back so badly that it shoukd have taken priority over ox

I’m not as downbeat as some after a month of the season were we have lost one game. A time to panic is if we have two months like last Jan and Feb not 4 weeks into the season

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[nine nine nine]

Sean, you’re right absolutely no reason to be downbeat look at the way Liverpool played v Arsenal albeit a poor Arsenal team that day but it was a delight to watch that kind of football as a neutral.

I guess if I was a Liverpool fan I would be a tad frustrated currently because Liverpool look so near but are yet so far away and if Klopp could only get on top of his defensive issues I suspect we all might be chasing your tail, however with my Chelsea hat on hopefully that doesn’t happen.?

But talk of banners, fly pasts and getting rid of Klopp are bonkers imo. Cheers 999

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[Nike19]

I’d say the problem discussed is a deep rooted one and one quite frankly stemming from 2010. It’s been reflected over this long period of time, because those individuals who were there and gracefully carried us descended one by one:

I’m talking Carragher, Agger, even Skrtel when he had his better player and leader cap on. Hodgson was a car crash from the off and there wasn’t really quite the lasting fairytale we hoped for under King Kenny on his second honeymoon.

Rodgers brought in Sakho to try and forge a partnership with Lovren. Even if we had this in place along with a David De Gea type of keeper, we’ve had least had a solid base to then work on the full-backs and gradually develop and establish a defensive unit.

As it happens, the changes made and the lack of quality not good enough to address the problem has brought us back to square 1. Many quite rightly have pointed out that our attacking swagger and goals have counteracted but also masked the problem and when we have fallen short in those areas, we’ve been pegged back as proved ala the results against Watford and Seville.

Other teams on Wednesday won comfortably and handsomely. We on the other hand struggled. This is effectively the point that I wanted to put forward and try and positively acknowledge.

Now could somebody be creative enough to form a banner projecting that message? 🙂 😉

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[sean the sailor]

Sahko was part of a defence that shipped many goals. It systematic aswell as poor play from our defenders. Not one defender can buy into the way klopp wants to play. There either through poor defensive coaching or the players not taking in what klopp is saying

We do lack a proper leader back there. Someone who will organise and get stuck into players for silly mistakes. We need an organiser, a talker. It’s shambolic at times

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[Chucky McChuckface]

Sorry cyber chums, couldn’t resist! 🙂

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[Big Jim]

You could be right Hightown Hope. Jim

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