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What a absolute smug post by someone who supports a so called big club that has only delivered 1 league title in 34 years.
All because I made a comment about Liverpool needing to resort to their 3rd or 4th choice to replace Klopp.
Glad you’re aware that this season is only 9 games old. Spurs were league title contenders 10 games in last season.
Like I said let’s see how the yes man does when the transfer committee expects him to develop the next Salah or Van Dijk, when he has players forced on to him.
Edit: I know United are in a sad state of affairs. I have only been talking about it the last year.
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It’s pertinent on the subject of players’ cycles and reaching their ‘end of life’. Usually the greatest of challenges when those crop of players are you best ones. The trick is to try and embed others in so then they are READY when the situation arises to ‘fill the gap’. Even if that could be short-term.
Too much change too soon can disrupt.
This guy being speculated was linked with the Hammers. Hopefully for United’s sake, they tie him down and then he’s ready.
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CM how is my post “smug”? You seem too obsessed with what is going on at Anfield with our so far looking good manager thrn what is happening at your own, which is in crisis hence you removed your manager again. And wtf are you on about a “yes man”? Focus on your own situation and don’t talk about something you know little about. That is after all what this thread is about.
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Personally, I’m just gutted it wasn’t Southgate!
Who knows if Amorim will be a success. Aside from Pep, there really are no guarantees of success in the game these days. The fact City were reportedly lining up Amorim as the man to replace Pep does somewhat fill me with confidence but let’s see.
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Interesting discussion on talk sport. Some Spanish dude said Amorim and Alonso have a similar style of play. Both like to play with 3 at the back and utilise wing backs. Reckon both rejected some club because the club didn’t have a pot to piss in and didn’t want to be controlled by some committee. It could not be down to style, if their number 1 choice plays a similar formation to their number 2 choice.
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Cm, im certainly not calling liverpooleague contenders chum. Very early days.
Think slot was 2nd choice after alonso.
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I think Alonso was just an convenient name for the Media to get hold of and subsequently, this caught fire. Plus of course because of his affiliation with Liverpool.
You’d have a pool of candidates whether they are 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th choices. That’s the competitive market we’re in and there’s variables to consider whether they actually want the job, whether they’ll settle into another setting, wages, what say they have on players, coaching staff to think about and so on.
This takes a considerable amount of underpinning to lay the foundations and ultimately, you are taking a Risk. For Ferguson to be as successful as he was, many do forget that his first few years was actually failure.
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I still think there’s a discrepancy between Utd’s goal of bringing in a manager to develop youngsters like they did when targeting Moyes, Solksjaer & Ten Hag vs the reality & ability of being able to spend big on big players. I just think you need a big name to manage a club with that spending ability and the expectations that brings. Chelsea have tried a raft of managers to develop young players from Lampard to Potter to Pochettino. And look how that’s gone. Look how Moyes, Solksjaer & Ten Hag went. A big name like Tuchel was the last Chelsea manager to win a European trophy, a much bigger achievement than a domestic cup. Just like Mourinho was the last Man Utd manager to win a European trophy. Yes its rumoured City were looking at Amorim, but that doesn’t necessarily mean they would have appointed him. And if he would have been it may have been more like a transitional appointment.
Tuchel was available. But now England have appointed him. Hansi Flick was available. But now flying high with Barca. I’m not saying Amorim would be a disaster if appointed. I just think working at a club with limited spending power vs a club with much bigger spending power is very different. It’s a different environment and culture. I’d also compare Emery at Arsenal & Emery at Villa.
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I just think you need a big name to manage a club with that spending ability and the expectations that brings. Chelsea have tried a raft of managers to develop young players from Lampard to Potter to Pochettino. And look how thatβs gone. Look how Moyes, Solksjaer & Ten Hag went. A big name like Tuchel was the last Chelsea manager to win a European trophy, a much bigger achievement than a domestic cup. Just like Mourinho was the last Man Utd manager to win a European trophy. Yes its rumoured City were looking at Amorim, but that doesnβt necessarily mean they would have appointed him. And if he would have been it may have been more like a transitional appointment.
Yet here are Chelsea, the biggest spenders in history, doing well with a manager who did nothing more than a decent job in the Championship. Tuchel may have done a decent job but is known for falling out with absolutely everyone at every club he’s been at. Ask any Chelsea fan if they’d have Tuchel back now over Maresca. Was Tuchel the only one or who else are you suggesting we should have got Mikus? The names don’t exactly roll off the tongue. Utd don’t have millions and millions to fix this any longer like we’ve had in the past. Utd are cost cutting in every single aspect of the club so there will (as ever at Utd) need to be a big focus on bringing through young players. The wage bill is rapidly declining and now only the 4th highest in the league. https://www.90min.com/posts/the-clubs-biggest-wage-bills-in-europe-ranked
I’m not suggesting City would have hired him. We’ll never know. But they get little wrong these days and the reports that they were lining him up at least suggests they saw something in him that he could make that step up. As yet, I trust their decision making over my own club’s. Berrada would have had inside knowledge of City’s succession planning.
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1 thing United have not done over the years since Ferguson is give a young up and coming manager a chance. They went with the established and experienced and all have failed.
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Maresca has had a good start. But I’m not as overly impressed by them as some. I don’t think they’re good enough defensively, granted it’s early days. Big test comes in what he wins. As for cost cutting, Utd still spent Β£180 mill on players over summer. We’ve spent a fraction of that.
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Yeah, get what you mean CM, re a young Manager or a younger Manager. You need somebody with a bit of Pedigree and proven.
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Mikus, most of that Β£180mil was only possible because we recouped the majority of it through player sales. Thereβs a very real risk of us running close of breaching the PSR rules so gone are the days of big spending at Utd and weβll never be able to match the likes seen at Chelsea recently.
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Well Utd have hugely underperformed vs the money spent over recent years. That’s going to hit them to some degree. But I think they still have some of the highest revenues vs other clubs. And they are still one of the biggest clubs in the world. I struggle to see them not competing for a player they want.
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Dont be think utd have any choice with this appointment no one else.
Club is a mess. Players dont work hard and they wont for this manager.
INEOS deserve no praise. Shambles the way they handled eth in the summer
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Cm was eth not an up and coming manager? He be like slot?
I donβt think it matters who comes in. Players are lazy, something really rotten at the club. Cm mentioned it before. Rashford etc still there stinking the place out.
This lad has done nothing to be getting a job like utd i said same about eth but absolutely no one else out there
Like there is no on there to come in
Not sure
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Not sure ETH can be classed as up and coming if I am honest Sean. He is 54 years old and is a similar age to when Jose arrived at United.
Not excited about Amorim, regardless of people say about him. The whole thing seems flat. Roy Keane said it best, a leopard never changes its spots. Players will never change, especially if they do not get their way.
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The chalk and cheese performance from last night makes me think the players downed tools for ETH. Yes there was some luck last night but the pressing was so much improved, as was the tempo and passing. ETH said he wanted a high intensity, high press style and couldn’t get the players to implement it, yet RVN managed that first game. I really can’t believe ETH was asking the players to not press and play with zero intensity, so I have to conclude they didn’t try for him.
Amorim is a gamble, as all appointments are but it seems a very positive gamble to me.
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Sorry cm i thought eth was much younger then that
Alfie, theres something rotten going on at the club. Is it player power. Jose, wth sll had players who were toxic at the club and the manager always got tye stick
Club need to show some balls and get rid of rashfird. The players dont run. They dont work hard and whats going to change under this manager?
Some of them saunter along. Not tracking players mate. Its a disgrace.
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