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The thing is Nil, Levy hired a top draw manager, let him spend hundreds of millions in 18 months (can’t be arsed to add it all up and Blondie and Zorro were 100 million by themselves!), and then watch it all implode is hardly something to blame Levy for…
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Been lots of marathon cheats doing exactly that π€£
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Horrible season for most teams but at least we can again put an asterisk next to the winners. About as legitimate and honorable winners as Lance Armstrong was when he dominated. Different type of doping, but still doping. Zero respect.
CL final to come where I will be cheering on Inter although not holding onto much hope.
Fa cup? Do what I did when Mourinho’s Chelsea played Man utd and hope there’s some external event that will null and void the match. Technicality that means erasing the whole competition from the records or something.
Probably best to accept a City Treble and put all my hope in the Premier League legal team. Maybe Der Spiegel can work some of their magic again too for the European competition.
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It is like someone has found a cheat code on football manager and are making the most of it. To win the league last season and then go out and buy the best striker in the world to add to that side is financial power weβve not seen before in this league. There have been big spenders but never before has a PL team had the financial muscle to go and get the very best in the world. That was a luxury always reserved for the Italian or Spanish teams under previous spells of PL dominance.
So you didn’t enjoy United steam roller the opposition winning eight titles in eleven years ?
It could of easily of been ten in elevenAnd between 2003-2013 you won six in eleven.Which could of easily of been eight in eleven
That’s dominance way more than we’ve ever since.Before the Premier league started united last
won the league in 1967.No league titles till premier league.Can someone explain that?1993,94,96.97,99,2000,01,03
2007,08,09,11,2013Missed out in
1995 to Blackburn by a point
1998 to Arsenal by a point
2002 to Arsenal & lpl by 10 points(2004-2006 Arsenal & Chelsea x2 utd 3 3 & 2nd)
2010 to Chelsea by a point
2012 To City on goal differenceSince the Premier league started united have always spent obscene amounts of money
What other premier league clubs were spending Β£30m on a central defender over 20 years ago? That’s what they did when they bought Ferdinand.(Be well over Β£100 in today’s prices
Β£30m was eye watering amounts for almost any player back then, never mind a centre back. They were dropping similar fees on the likes of Veron too.
The reality is nobody used to be able to compete with them financially. People malign the likes of us and Chelsea and say we bought success. To an extent its true, but we are honest, we’re under no illusions that money has given us a huge boost but all we really did was level the playing field for us and the other top clubs like Chelsea and United.
What we really found out was once multiple teams could start spending similar to united, they weren’t actually that good.
The big difference is we spend very well for the most part and the united pissed money up the wall on shit player after shit player for a decade.
Everything we’ve won.We’ve won it on the pitch.Hopefully when we get the chance to clear our name
the haters will find something else to be offended aboutUp the fuckin Blues π
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The thing is Nil, Levy hired a top draw manager, let him spend hundreds of millions in 18 months (canβt be arsed to add it all up and Blondie and Zorro were 100 million by themselves!), and then watch it all implode is hardly something to blame Levy forβ¦
I read Levy has taken around Β£45M out of Spurs since he’s been there.It’s 100% his fault.Wake up and smell the coffee Banjo π
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“Everything weβve won.Weβve won it on the pitch.”
No denying that. But how did you get those players on the pitch?
Utd have dominated before and spent tons of money but how they got that money compared to City is vastly different. Utd is and always has been a massive club. City? Never been never will be, not to the levels of Utd and Liverpool.
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You have to have realistic expectations. If there are going to be managerial changes where by the Management team is not being allow time to develop and go through trial and error, then there’s less likely of success and something that can be passed on in goodness to the next guy stepping in.
That’s Levy’s one problem I find.
Chelsea obviously have been known to change managers as with Man United over the last 10 years. There’s a correlation.
Lots more teams in the premier league are able to generate more income. e.g. the multi-sponsors on different apparel of teams, grounds used as venues, social media, international recognition of fanbase, and television broadcasting. There is growing opportunity and no club would be advised to standstill, that’s the key.
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Have the Glazers though been naughty using United’s revenue generator to service their own debts?
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Utd have dominated before and spent tons of money but how they got that money compared to City is vastly different. Utd is and always has been a massive club. City? Never been never will be, not to the levels of Utd and Liverpool.
No doubt why you and many others started supporting the said clubs ehh ?
You ever been to Anfield to watch them?I don’t give a shite about the size of whatever club anyone supports
I’ve had a season ticket at MCFC since 1984.So forty years next yearYou only get 20 years for manslaughter nowadays π
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“You ever been to Anfield to watch them?”
Yes many times. What an odd thing to ask!
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Have the Glazers though been naughty using Unitedβs revenue generator to service their own debts?
Not sure anyone knows.Aren’t united’s accounts offshore in the Cayman islands ?
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Tash…. 45 million over what, 20? 25 years? Either way it’s still about the same that your team pays in agents fees for one player (that would be blondie before you ask!) or about the same you paid Mancini via dodgy overseas clubs…
Anyway, just out of curiosity, what is the “defence” for the breaches of the rules then? Are you lot still planning on playing the a “technical” card (forget the admissions of guilt in the emails, just look at how the emails came to light) or the “statute of limitations” card (forget about all the rules we broke because we broke them ages ago)? Or was Mancini really worth 3.5 million for being massaged for 2 days in a 5 star hotel in Abu Dhabi?
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“Or was Mancini really worth 3.5 million for being massaged for 2 days in a 5 star hotel in Abu Dhabi?”
I assume for that price it came with a happy ending?
Not wanting to get involved I another anti City session but agree with a lot of what chucky said about the season being a bit of a damp squib. It’s no longer about who plays the best or coached the best it’s whose owning state invests the most. If dominance continues fans will walk.
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Isn’t it interesting when you saw the huge level of mass fan protests throughout the country when the European superleague plans were unveiled by the big clubs because it was deemed not “fair play” and all fans wanted it on merit, yet when super rich foreign owners come into any club, there is pretty much silence?
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Ppt, it’s absolute nonsense to compare Cityβs spending and alleged cheating to what Utd did under Ferguson.
Ferguson took over a club who had a net spend of minus Β£1.5mil in the 5 years preceding his appointment and Β£14mil total in the 5 years post his appointment (both Spurs and Liverpool spent more during this period). Newcastle, Liverpool, Chelsea, Everton, Spurs and even Man City outspent Utd massively during the period 92-98. It wasn’t until the oil clubs came in that Utd started to spend big.
You say nobody could compete with Utd financially but we hardly spent before Ferguson came in then only once before the treble season were we the league’s biggest spenders. Over the course of the 30 years since the PL began, we’ve been the biggest spenders in 5 seasons, which is fewer times than City despite Cityβs lengthy absence from the league.
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It’s so clear on here that everyones agenda is to make the club they support look innocent and great at the same time,it’s always about them. I’m happy to have reached a higher evolved echelon, why worry about stuff like that.
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https://www.football365.com/news/transfers-premier-league-five-year-net-spend-man-utd-man-city
Once again. Who are the big spenders or are these facts wrong? If you say it often enough people believe it.
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Go back to the beginning of the EPL. Ask who has spent the most. The past five years when we won the most we did not spend the most.
Including Liverpool we have the best management.
Better than the rest. Or should we tinge it in green π€_____________________________
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Bloody hell, what is wrong with you bloody Abu Dhabi boys??? LOL!!! Why only 5 years? Why not, say, 13 years, going back to when Abu Dhabi turned you into their little bitches?? LOL!!! Would that be because you’re net spend over those 13 years would happen to be over 1,5 billion pounds, considerably the highest in Europe over those 13 years? Would that be it? Okay, we’ll forget the first 8 years, you know, those years when you really were spending money like it was going out of fashion and absolutely not breaking any rules whatsoever in the process while getting so far ahead of everybody else you can now claim to be “spending like the rest of us”…
Sorry, forgot your legal arguments… stuff more than 5 years old doesn’t count!! π
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Yeah I wonder why you want to cap it at the last 5 years Adlab ππ. Of course you don’t need to spend much now. You’ve stocked up on players over the years through heavy spending meaning you can just sell players who aren’t good enough and keep your net spend low. Here’s a much longer term view:
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